From industrial logistics to e-commerce logistics: after starting 20 years ago at Bosch, he participated in developments in e-commerce logistics. First at ORIUM (now LOG'S) as head of international operations, then as a consultant for Smartbox and Colizen. Then, within the ERAM group's IT department, he participated in the overhaul of operational processes and IT projects to optimize logistics. Today it offers strategic and operational training and support.